First PIC witness grilled on Day 2 of R4.3bn AYO subscription case

The PIC is looking to dissolve and recoup its R4.3 billion subscription agreement in Ayo Technology Solutions (AYO). Picture: Armand Hough/African News Agency (ANA)

The PIC is looking to dissolve and recoup its R4.3 billion subscription agreement in Ayo Technology Solutions (AYO). Picture: Armand Hough/African News Agency (ANA)

Published Mar 9, 2023

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Cape Town - Cross-examination of the Public Investment Corporation’s (PIC) first witness, Victor Seanie got under way on Wednesday afternoon, in the case being heard in the Western Cape High Court, where the PIC is looking to dissolve and recoup its R4.3 billion subscription agreement in Ayo Technology Solutions (AYO).

Senior Counsel for AYO, Nazeer Cassim, began by questioning the witness about the issue of the PIC’s guilty finding in disciplinary proceedings brought against Seanie, which included allegations of dishonesty, a lack of integrity and breaching of his employment contract.

When Seanie said he did not accepted the disciplinary’s findings, Cassim asked him whether he had taken them to the CCMA on review,Seanie said he had but then had not pursued it.

“So, then you abandoned it?” asked Cassim. To which Seanie replied, “yes”.

“So, then you accepted the findings that you were dishonest?” pressed Cassim.

“I did not accept it,” insisted Seanie.

"But it (the findings) are there for all to see,“ argued Cassim.

Cross-examination of the Public Investment Corporation’s (PIC) first witness, Victor Seanie got under way on Wednesday afternoon. Picture: Mwangi Githahu/Cape Argus

Later in the cross-examination, Seanie conceded that he had never read AYO’s final Pre-Listing Statement (PLS) document, and had only read the draft PLS.

Seanie also admitted that he had not taken the AYO deal seriously and only did a quick desktop due diligence exercise after he realised his bosses were taking it seriously.

He had said that in his view, the whole process was rushed, and he had been sure that after the PIC had carried out due diligence on the deal, it would not go ahead.

Cassim and Seanie locked horns over the issue of AYO’s partnership with British Telecom SA (BTSA), with Seanie insisting that it was only a partial deal and Cassim saying the fact was that there was a deal. Seanie begrudgingly conceded this point.

Earlier, the relevance of Seanie’s evidence was questioned, with Cassim raising several objections while Seanie was being led in his testimony by PIC Counsel Phumlani Ngcongo on the matter of emails and discussions relating to the preliminary evaluation of AYO, ahead of its approach to the PIC with its (PLS).

Ngcongo had also questioned Seanie about whether he knew anything about the Sekunjalo Group of Companies’ (Sekunjalo) chairman Dr Iqbal Survé’s involvement in it as far back as July when the issue was still being discussed internally at AYO.

In response to the string of questions he was asked by Ngcongo, Seanie had said that he was not aware of the discussions and had not seen the emails.

Objecting to the line of questioning, Cassim wanted to know what value the witness was adding when he had already admitted he was unaware of the discussions and emails.

Judge Ashley Binns-Ward, who is hearing the matter, sustained this objection as well as others Cassim raised, also demanding to know what the point of the questions was.

When Ngcongo tried to explain the reasoning behind his line of questioning, Binns-Ward said he understood that he was trying to create a narrative, but that the issue could be dealt with in another way.

The case continues today (Thursday).

mwangi.githahu@inl.co.za

Cape Argus